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in syria. the u.s. knows the. this is a game being played by politics. mr. obama is not speak being to assad. assad is beyond hearing. he's speaking to moscow. don't let this happen. he's talking directly to putin. >> let me go back to your other fascinating point opinion you say back in 2003, of course this was the weapons of mass destruction that president bush and the intelligence agencies around the world never were able to discover. you're saying, john, that the russians carted or flew those wmds, these were chemical weapons of mass destruction that the russians carted those wmds from iraq to syria but, in fact, there were wmds in iraq all along. . it to be very careful. russians cooperated in the transfer of major weapon systems. the republican guards, the ability to launch the missiles and the wmd and to marry the war head with the missiles. the russians supervised all of that for saddam hussein. the night of april 5th two convoys left baghdad one with the russian ambassador headed to da
in syria. the u.s. knows the. this is a game being played by politics. mr. obama is not speak being to assad. assad is beyond hearing. he's speaking to moscow. don't let this happen. he's talking directly to putin. >> let me go back to your other fascinating point opinion you say back in 2003, of course this was the weapons of mass destruction that president bush and the intelligence agencies around the world never were able to discover. you're saying, john, that the russians carted or...
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in syria, meanwhile, rebels continue to advance on damascus, prompting concern that president assad's regime will respond with chemical weapons. question, should the u.s. intervene in any of these here now is mark ginsburg, former white house middle east advisor. welcome back, mark. here's the thing. we drew a red line, president obama drew a red line over these chemical weapons of mass destruction. at what point do we have to start bombing them to prevent them from moving and utilizes those weapons of mass destruction? when's that happen? >> larry, the fact of the matter is that i already know some of those weapons have been moved and put into the hands of the iranian revolutionary guards operating in syria and also i believe some of it has been sold to hezbollah. so as far as i'm concerned, there's some of that red line that's been crossed. but to answer your question, the fact remains is that if the intelligence report says, as the president and the press reports are leading us to believe, that precursors have been loaded into those shells, somehow or another we're going to have to
in syria, meanwhile, rebels continue to advance on damascus, prompting concern that president assad's regime will respond with chemical weapons. question, should the u.s. intervene in any of these here now is mark ginsburg, former white house middle east advisor. welcome back, mark. here's the thing. we drew a red line, president obama drew a red line over these chemical weapons of mass destruction. at what point do we have to start bombing them to prevent them from moving and utilizes those...
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>>> breaking news from syria, and it is a blockbuster. the assad regime is walking and loading its chemical weapons, ready to use them on its own people. nbc's chief pentagon correspondent joins us now. jim, is this the red line president obama was warning about? >> well, not quite yet. u.s. officials tell us that the syrian military is poised to use chemical weapons against their own people, and all it would take really is the final order from syrian president assad. but we have learned that as of today, all the precursored chemicals for that deadly nerve gas have in fact now been loaded on to aerial bombs, but those bombs are still in the depots. they haven't been loaded on to airplanes yet, and president assad hasn't given the order. but they're pretty close, larry, and that's why earlier this week, of course, president obama issued a very strong statement aimed at president assad saying look, if you use these weapons against your people, there will be serious consequences, but that's where somewhat of the problem lies. >> listen, i wa
>>> breaking news from syria, and it is a blockbuster. the assad regime is walking and loading its chemical weapons, ready to use them on its own people. nbc's chief pentagon correspondent joins us now. jim, is this the red line president obama was warning about? >> well, not quite yet. u.s. officials tell us that the syrian military is poised to use chemical weapons against their own people, and all it would take really is the final order from syrian president assad. but we have...
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we had some developments out of syria, the new continues there. how much is this a middle east premium priced into the crude price at this point, how much is it providing a support? >> jackie i think it's less than what it was three or four weeks ago when you had israel and gaza fighting. when you look at the news today hillary clinton met with the russian foreign minister, syria's biggest ally is russia. if russia tells them you have to calm down they'll calm down. >> you think they're going lower. are you buying or selling oil slide? logon to futuresnow.cnbc.com and vote in our poll, we'll give you the results on our website and while there catch today's show, we have investment guru curtis arlidge of bny mellon and tune in to that and doug cass will reveal how he's playing apple's wild ride today at 1:00 p.m. futuresnow.cnbc.com. >> see you at the top of the hour on cnbc.com. >>> coming up halftime fund managers doing fancy trading to give portfolios a temporary boost and are you, the investor, left holding the bag? jpmorgan's tom lee on track
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former military leader will take office next year as the country's first female president, challenging syria types in a country traditionally ruled by men in suits. she will be tasked with getting the slowing economy back on track at a time when growth rates have risen to a meager 2% now. but she will need to do it in a way that appeases young voters who are calling for more balanced income distribution when companies like samsung and hyundai have sales equivalent to about a fifth of national output. >> i think it will be a little bit pro condmrom rat, pro business. and at the bottom level, reach out to smes to create a balanced approach to the 2 is e century. >> park made her position clear, saying she will engage the north korean leadership and give the country aid, but not before it gives up its nuclear weapons program. >> considering north korea murdered her mother and tried to kill her father a few times -- >> with an iron fist for 18 years. she was forced to grow up quickly during her time in office after her mother was killed by a north korean gunman serving as her father ae's -- >> a
former military leader will take office next year as the country's first female president, challenging syria types in a country traditionally ruled by men in suits. she will be tasked with getting the slowing economy back on track at a time when growth rates have risen to a meager 2% now. but she will need to do it in a way that appeases young voters who are calling for more balanced income distribution when companies like samsung and hyundai have sales equivalent to about a fifth of national...
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but clearly egypt and places like syria, lebanon, so on have been affected. so it really is -- and we've defer natalie seen a reduction in development in the middle east. so it is a big market for us. but less growth than we've seen in the past. but again, over time, it's a wealthy part of the world. >> there's speculation that you could be selling somewhere in the region of $2 billion worth of asset necessary hong kong, london, new york, paris. are you? >> no, no, too much speculation. we have our new york hotel was on the market. we have a slight hiccup in that process where we've gone with one party. we're now going back on the to the market. and early next year, we'll put our london continental on the market. why? >> because our business is about creating brands, managing other people's hotels and franchises. owning real estate, we should only own where it helps that business. for example, we've announced a couple of new grands recently, even hotels in the u.s. and china. in the u.s., you need to put your money where your mouth is. we will sell those asse
but clearly egypt and places like syria, lebanon, so on have been affected. so it really is -- and we've defer natalie seen a reduction in development in the middle east. so it is a big market for us. but less growth than we've seen in the past. but again, over time, it's a wealthy part of the world. >> there's speculation that you could be selling somewhere in the region of $2 billion worth of asset necessary hong kong, london, new york, paris. are you? >> no, no, too much...
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but clearly egypt and places like syria have been affected. and we've defer natalie seen a reduction in the market. but less growth than we've seen in the past. but i think, again, over time, it's a wealthy part of the world. >> there's speculation that you could be selling somewhere in the region of $2 billion worth of assets in hong kong, london, new york, paris. are you? >> no, no. too much speculation. we have on the market a slight hiccup in that process where we've gone with one party, we're now going to go back out to the markets. and then we said early next year we'll put our london intercontinental on the market. >> why? >> because we're very clear about that. our business is about creating brands, managing other people's hotels and franchises. owning real estate, we should only help where it owns that business. we've announced a couple of new grounds recently. hold up in china, hotels and even the u.s. in the u.s., you need to put your money where your mouth is. we'll put up to $150,000. tinter continentals we've owned for the partic
but clearly egypt and places like syria have been affected. and we've defer natalie seen a reduction in the market. but less growth than we've seen in the past. but i think, again, over time, it's a wealthy part of the world. >> there's speculation that you could be selling somewhere in the region of $2 billion worth of assets in hong kong, london, new york, paris. are you? >> no, no. too much speculation. we have on the market a slight hiccup in that process where we've gone with...
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is it syria? is it egypt? is it the middle east in general? is it europe? is it the in fact that greece may have had a selective default or is it our own backyard, or is it all of this above? there's a lot to talk about. the dollar index virtually unchanged and the big enchilada tomorrow with the jobless rate. >> we had a drop in claims of 24,000 in new jersey. 7,000 also in california, unrelated to sandy, 7,000 in new york as well. so this is -- let me tell you what happened. what happened is that we found out that we're not in a deeper hole than we thought we were in, but 370,000 is a little bit on the elevated side. >> did claims drop because people haven't been able to put them in yet? because if you look at the claims dropping in areas hit by sandy, is there still some -- >> unknowable. there's still some claims that need to come through, the best interpretation becky is that we're seeing the effects of sandy wash out on the claims and that's where i'm making the conclusion that we're at 370,000 which is sort of in the middle of that 350,000 range. mor
is it syria? is it egypt? is it the middle east in general? is it europe? is it the in fact that greece may have had a selective default or is it our own backyard, or is it all of this above? there's a lot to talk about. the dollar index virtually unchanged and the big enchilada tomorrow with the jobless rate. >> we had a drop in claims of 24,000 in new jersey. 7,000 also in california, unrelated to sandy, 7,000 in new york as well. so this is -- let me tell you what happened. what...
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they took 2,000 of that you are journalists, everybody from journalists embedded in syria, to people covering fashion in europe. and then journalists, 5 to 7 paragraphs are now captures quick tout video updates. so what that means for "wall street journal" is they're now engaging the users in a much more rich, immersive way. extra disk akind of print or text-based business. a lot of online publishers, print companies, newspaper companies, et cetera who are just still adjusting to chapter 1 of the digital movement. it's taking them in a print metaphor. >> a premium service now? >> it's a premium service. it launched in september with the "wall street journal." we also have the women we, one of our big partnerships, premium service into their television programming, the 12 million viewers a week, digital as well as the live event. over the last six, eight weeks we've had companies like up, broadcast tv companies, networks, capable, print, all kinds of folks. >> is the premium service, can i subscribe as an individual, a consumer? >> you can as a consumer, though it has such industrial
they took 2,000 of that you are journalists, everybody from journalists embedded in syria, to people covering fashion in europe. and then journalists, 5 to 7 paragraphs are now captures quick tout video updates. so what that means for "wall street journal" is they're now engaging the users in a much more rich, immersive way. extra disk akind of print or text-based business. a lot of online publishers, print companies, newspaper companies, et cetera who are just still adjusting to...
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reports of chemical weapons in syria. let's get started with what promises to be a lively discussion. abbe huntsman, and a host of huff posts live. and welcome to you all. let's start with guns and the fallout of the murder and suicide of jovan bellcher and his girlfriend. bob costas of nbc spoke out about this. let's watch what he said tonight. >> i believe that there should be more comprehensive and effective controls on the sale of guns. roughly 40% of the guns purchased in this country do not require a background check for purchasing. i don't see any reason why someone should be able to purchase military style or body armor or weapons. only the police and the military should have that. >> let's start off. you've been giving me a holler on twitter about this. you are a big gun fan. explain to me why bob costas is wrong? >> it boils down to the ability to protect yourself, piers. when you look at what is what happening in syria with the threat of chemical weapons. the only reason they're not going to use it is because s
reports of chemical weapons in syria. let's get started with what promises to be a lively discussion. abbe huntsman, and a host of huff posts live. and welcome to you all. let's start with guns and the fallout of the murder and suicide of jovan bellcher and his girlfriend. bob costas of nbc spoke out about this. let's watch what he said tonight. >> i believe that there should be more comprehensive and effective controls on the sale of guns. roughly 40% of the guns purchased in this...
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that they've wanted what's going on in syria to happen within syria. but the fear is if chemical weapons are utilized, and again, the syrian regime has said on many occasions, they are not going to use chemical weapons against their population, that that would mean there would be some type of military intervention, although it's unclear what scope that type of military intervention would take. >> mohammed jamjoom live in beirut, thanks very much. >>> a sobering cup of joe from the starbucks ceo. his dire warning about leaping off that fiscal cliff is next. you're watching "early start." begin. tomato, obviously. haha. there's more than that though, there's a kick to it. wahlalalalallala! smooth, but crisp. it's kind of like drinking a food that's a drink, or a drink that's a food, woooooh! [ male announcer ] taste it and describe the indescribable. could've had a v8. yep. the longer you stay with us, the more you save. and when you switch from another company to us, we even reward you for the time you spent there. genius. yeah, genius. you guys must ha
that they've wanted what's going on in syria to happen within syria. but the fear is if chemical weapons are utilized, and again, the syrian regime has said on many occasions, they are not going to use chemical weapons against their population, that that would mean there would be some type of military intervention, although it's unclear what scope that type of military intervention would take. >> mohammed jamjoom live in beirut, thanks very much. >>> a sobering cup of joe from...
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"outfront" next, american meets with syria's neighbors and the united states has a plan on chemical weapons and really, are they going to use those chemical weapons? new details tonight and we followed amy copeland's recovery from flesh eating bacteria for months on this show and tonight, amy is "outfront." she's everything to you. but your erectile dysfunction - that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medications, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sexual activity. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, as this may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess with cialis. side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. to avoid long-term injury, seek immediate medical help for an erection
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"outfront" next, american meets with syria's neighbors and the united states has a plan on chemical weapons and really, are they going to use those chemical weapons? new details tonight and we followed amy copeland's recovery >>> breaking news out of the pentagon. sources tell cnn the u.s. is huddling with allies on what a chemical attack by assad would actually look like. we have a picture from former cia operative and contributor bob bayer to show you what the impact of a single shell of gas would be in launched on homs in syria. the large swath of the city that would be affected. it's estimated about 18,000 people would be killed in a day. let's get straight to barbara starr. and barbara, what have you learned tonight? >> well, you know, as tragic and serious as this is for the people of syria, this now has regional implications throughout the middle east. intelligence services from israel, turkey, jordan, lebanon, all the countries surrounding syria are talking with the united states around the clock about this very scenario because if there were to be god forbid a chemical attack, the
"outfront" next, american meets with syria's neighbors and the united states has a plan on chemical weapons and really, are they going to use those chemical weapons? new details tonight and we followed amy copeland's recovery >>> breaking news out of the pentagon. sources tell cnn the u.s. is huddling with allies on what a chemical attack by assad would actually look like. we have a picture from former cia operative and contributor bob bayer to show you what the impact of a...
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headline, the future of syria was the main item on the agenda when u.s. and russian officials met in geneva today. after 21 months of relentless bloodshed they agreed it was till possible to find a political solution to the crisis. russian foreign minister sergei levrov admitted the meeting did not mean support for bashar al assad was weakening. >>> today easily the second straight sunday that an nfl team played a game in the wake of tragedy. this player, jerry brown jr., of the dallas cowboys, died early yesterday in a car accident. brown was a passenger. the driver was his teammate, josh brent, who now has a $500,000 bond while facing charges he killed someone while driving drunk. police say brent's mercedes was moving very fast when he hurt a curb and flipped. josh brent has a history of dui. >>> an update to last week's tragedy in kansas city. new video released by police show javon bell cher hours before he killed his girlfriend then his. dash cam video shows police talking to belcher after they found him sleeping in his car. listen to what police to
headline, the future of syria was the main item on the agenda when u.s. and russian officials met in geneva today. after 21 months of relentless bloodshed they agreed it was till possible to find a political solution to the crisis. russian foreign minister sergei levrov admitted the meeting did not mean support for bashar al assad was weakening. >>> today easily the second straight sunday that an nfl team played a game in the wake of tragedy. this player, jerry brown jr., of the dallas...
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they're the big egest arms supplier to syria, the biggest ally that syria has, to dissuade the syrians from letting this chemical weapons loose or using them against the rebel alliance. if assad should fall and there's a chaotic period of time where no one is in charge of the government in damascus, if one of those radical rebel groups gets control of chemical weapons, that could be potentially very, very dangerous and that might lead to some kind of military intervention by the united states or other countries to secure those weapons. >> so would your best analysis be that, in fact, the united states is going to be drawn into some kind of military conflict in syria? >> it is possible. i'm not sure it's likely at this point. the syrian government would have to think long and hard before using those weapons. there will be all sorts of negative repercussions from them, including the threat of military intervention. and i do think the russian government will not want to see syria use chemical weapons or let them out to the control of rebel forces. we're really counting on the russians her
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. >>> the already dire situation in syria may be taking on an even more disturbing turn. there's word that president bashar al assad may be thinking about using chemical weapons and more specifically nerve gas against his own people. an nbc report shows video it says depicts the syrian military loaning components for air gas into aerial bombs. those could be bombs that might be dropped from warplanes onto the innocent syrian people below but they say they would never do that to their own people though we have been seeing what they have been doing to their own people for the last year and a half now. >>> secretary of state hillary clinton is leading a new u.s. diplomatic push on syria holding talks in dublin, ireland, today. let me begin with you. including this distressing nbc news report, what and how much do we know about al assad's movements at this point? >> reporter: there have been concerns for months. the u.s. reiterated for quite some time if assad did anything with those chemical weapons and utilize them in any way, theat would be a red line that brought on conse
. >>> the already dire situation in syria may be taking on an even more disturbing turn. there's word that president bashar al assad may be thinking about using chemical weapons and more specifically nerve gas against his own people. an nbc report shows video it says depicts the syrian military loaning components for air gas into aerial bombs. those could be bombs that might be dropped from warplanes onto the innocent syrian people below but they say they would never do that to their...
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octagenarians doing gangnam style, no deal, and what syria is planning to do if bashar al assad will do if he uses chemical weapons against his own people? a woman with a 1% survival after contracting a flesh-eating bacteria. she made it. tonight let's go "out front." >>> good evening. i'm erin burnett. out front, gangnam style. this is how one man sees the fiscal cliff. this is allen simpson, as in the simpson in simpson/bowles. ♪ >> yep, that may be the most actions the fiscal cliff saw today. here's the scene on capitol hill here at noon. yep, people leaving, members of congress leaving washington, heading home on a wednesday afternoon. one man standing was the house speaker and he says, i'm not going anywhere. >> i'll be here and i'll be available at any moment to sit down with the president to get serious about solving this problem. >> but, of course, it takes two to tango. where does president obama stand? >> we can probably solve this in about a week. it's not that tough. >> he's absolutely right about that. but we heard earlier this evening the president and speaker boehner
octagenarians doing gangnam style, no deal, and what syria is planning to do if bashar al assad will do if he uses chemical weapons against his own people? a woman with a 1% survival after contracting a flesh-eating bacteria. she made it. tonight let's go "out front." >>> good evening. i'm erin burnett. out front, gangnam style. this is how one man sees the fiscal cliff. this is allen simpson, as in the simpson in simpson/bowles. ♪ >> yep, that may be the most actions...
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. >>> the future of syria was the main item on the agenda when u.s. and russian officials met in geneva today with the u.n. peace envoy. reports say after 21 months of relentless bloodshed, they agreed it was still possible to find a political solution to the crisis. but russian foreign minister sergei lavrov insisted the meeting did not mean moscow's support for syrian president bashar al assad is weakening. fierce fighting threatening to engulf the city of damascus. >>> as that battle for the capital intensifies, the stakes are getting higher in syria, and the regime is getting even more desperate. the pentagon believes government troops have loaded bombs with sarin gas in what may be the last-ditch attempt for president assad to hold onto power. but as barbara starr reports now, a u.s. military strike on syria is not without risk. >> reporter: with the u.s. now believing the syrian government has chemical-filled bombs, cnn has learned the pentagon is secretly updating military strike options for president obama in the event he orders action. a seni
. >>> the future of syria was the main item on the agenda when u.s. and russian officials met in geneva today with the u.n. peace envoy. reports say after 21 months of relentless bloodshed, they agreed it was still possible to find a political solution to the crisis. but russian foreign minister sergei lavrov insisted the meeting did not mean moscow's support for syrian president bashar al assad is weakening. fierce fighting threatening to engulf the city of damascus. >>> as...
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five days after their capture they are safely out of syria. they disappeared last thursday after crossing into northwestern syria from turkey. this morning he told the today show they were not physically tortured but were mentally tortured. >> they took us to a series of safehouses and interrogation places and they kept us blind folded, bound. we weren't physically beaten oratortured. threats of being killed. they made us choose which one of us would be shot first. when we refused there were mock shootings. when you were blind folded and told and then they fire the gun in the air it can ebe very traumatic experience. >> i'll say. they say they were released after the captors got into a gunfight at a check point. >>> state department has been under scrutiny for months. now they will share new findings with congress as early as today they will share the report. secretary of state hillary clinton ordered the review. lawmakers will be given a classified briefing before formal hearings this week. >>> it will not be easy for students going back to s
five days after their capture they are safely out of syria. they disappeared last thursday after crossing into northwestern syria from turkey. this morning he told the today show they were not physically tortured but were mentally tortured. >> they took us to a series of safehouses and interrogation places and they kept us blind folded, bound. we weren't physically beaten oratortured. threats of being killed. they made us choose which one of us would be shot first. when we refused there...
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just before this civil war in syria started. thank you. >>> we keep hearing about republicans in effect jumping ship, saying it's time to go along with president obama in raising tax rates on the rich to avo avoid the fiscal cliff. erin burnett's been looking into that. she's going in depth on that tonight. what have you found out? >> it seems more and more likely that we're going to end up in a situation where we get a pretty awful deal if we get a deal. there's not going to be a grand bargain, which is a big failure, but are there going to be republicans who are willing to make serious corp. mizs. tom mcclint ok's going to be our guest. we're going put the hard questions to him tonight, plus, wolf, you remember amy copeland, the young woman who went on the bungee jump and got the stitches and had to go back because of the flesh eating bacteria? >> what happened? >> well, she survived and she is our special guest tonight. she was honored with a woman of the year award and her story is pretty incredible. she talks about what she
just before this civil war in syria started. thank you. >>> we keep hearing about republicans in effect jumping ship, saying it's time to go along with president obama in raising tax rates on the rich to avo avoid the fiscal cliff. erin burnett's been looking into that. she's going in depth on that tonight. what have you found out? >> it seems more and more likely that we're going to end up in a situation where we get a pretty awful deal if we get a deal. there's not going to be...
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envoy to syria. with so much concern about the threat of chemical weapons at this point, do you think there are any diplomatic options left? >> i think the play -- and hillary clinton met twice today with russian foreign minister lavrov -- is to get russia in the tent with the rest of the world. everyone has predicted, when facts on the ground change, russia will be there. this could be a reset moment for vladimir putin, and he could, because of his unique sway in the area, persuade, i would think, the bashar family to step aside and create a peaceful transition, like the transition in yemen. the opposition is now more broadly representative, and i would hope the russians would see that being on the wrong side of this just creates more carnage, more opportunity for terrorists to get traction there and won't help russia. >> it's a pivotal moment, as we say, a clear tipping point. glad you're back safe and sound from egyp. jane harman, thanks so much for coming in. the jersey shore about to meet the fi
envoy to syria. with so much concern about the threat of chemical weapons at this point, do you think there are any diplomatic options left? >> i think the play -- and hillary clinton met twice today with russian foreign minister lavrov -- is to get russia in the tent with the rest of the world. everyone has predicted, when facts on the ground change, russia will be there. this could be a reset moment for vladimir putin, and he could, because of his unique sway in the area, persuade, i...
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but there are many more people who are still missing inside syria, wolf. it has been a plague of kidnapping and hostage taking there. there are no less than 21 journalists and 18 other citizen journalists currently missing, according to the organization reporters without borders. many ordinary syrians being held for ransom as law and order continues to break down in that war-torn country. wolf? >> ivan watson, thanks very much. and it underscores, kate, just how dangerous these assignments are. you know, so happy that these nbc journalists got out. >> so, so thankful that they got out, wolf. you're so right. >>> other stories that we are watching today. on capitol hill, a deal could be taking shape to avoid the fiscal cliff, now just two weeks away. our lisa sylvester is here with that and more of today's top stories. hey there, lisa. >> hi, there, wolf and kate. well, as americans edge ever closer to huge tax hikes and deep automatic spending cuts, both sides are offering compromises today. house speaker john boehner proposed a short-term plan, higher tax
but there are many more people who are still missing inside syria, wolf. it has been a plague of kidnapping and hostage taking there. there are no less than 21 journalists and 18 other citizen journalists currently missing, according to the organization reporters without borders. many ordinary syrians being held for ransom as law and order continues to break down in that war-torn country. wolf? >> ivan watson, thanks very much. and it underscores, kate, just how dangerous these...
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they were in northwestern syria, traveling with rebels. at one point more than a dozen armed gunmen, richard engel, said ambushed them and took them into custody, threw them in the back of a pickup truck and drove them to a location. they were blindfolded. they were bound for several days. they were subjected to mock executions. they went through really a terrible time. and this is part of what richard told his colleagues on the "today" show, a few hours ago, about what they went through while they were in captivity. let's listen. >> and they took us to a series of safe houses and interrogation places. and they kept us blindfolded, bound. we weren't physically beaten or tortured. it was a lot of psychological torture. threats of being killed. they made us choose which one of us would be shot first. when we refused, there were mock shootings. they pretended to shoot ghazi several times. when you're blindfolded, and then they fired the gun up in the air. it can be very traumatic experience. and at end of this, we were being moved to yet anot
they were in northwestern syria, traveling with rebels. at one point more than a dozen armed gunmen, richard engel, said ambushed them and took them into custody, threw them in the back of a pickup truck and drove them to a location. they were blindfolded. they were bound for several days. they were subjected to mock executions. they went through really a terrible time. and this is part of what richard told his colleagues on the "today" show, a few hours ago, about what they went...
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this all happening in the north of syria. now, during that journey, they seem to have come across a group of rebels called the atar al sham brigade, who entered into a gun fight with their captors. it caused the nbc team to be free. >> no physical harm. but psychological farm. fa harm. fake executions, asking them which one of them they would like to be executed first. >> they believe that there was a reb regime to the loyalty. mr. engel has gone on to say that they may have been thugs. in context to the civil war it refers to militia loyal toward the government. he thinks they may have been held in a bid to try and exchange them for captives held by the rebels, potentially iranian agents working for the syrian regime. a complex situation which seems to have been remarkably resolved in positive fashion, of course, shows you how anarchy things are getting in syria. >> thank you so much. you and i have known richard and his cameraman for a long time. we are all relieved this morning. thank you so much. >>> let's go back to newt
this all happening in the north of syria. now, during that journey, they seem to have come across a group of rebels called the atar al sham brigade, who entered into a gun fight with their captors. it caused the nbc team to be free. >> no physical harm. but psychological farm. fa harm. fake executions, asking them which one of them they would like to be executed first. >> they believe that there was a reb regime to the loyalty. mr. engel has gone on to say that they may have been...
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i want to begin with a fast moving story out of syria. a group of rebels helping fight to overthrow president bashar al assad is about to be declared a terrorist organization. u.s. government documents indicate this radical group known as the al nursa front has ties to al qaeda. this group has been behind some of the major military successes for the syrian rebels thus far. but also some more extreme tactics like suicide bombings. nick payton walsh joins me now live from beirut. nick, we know some of the same fighters fought in the iraqi insurgency. what more do we know about them? >> reporter: well, it is interesting how the u.s. government has chosen to designate this group. they quite simply said that the front, which is what many people remember from the syrian rebellion, behind the key victories, the more extreme tactics, suicide bombings, even claimed attacks on part civilian regime held areas, it says this name is simply another name for al qaeda in iraq, which we all recall from the iraqi insurgency. that is clearing the link betwe
i want to begin with a fast moving story out of syria. a group of rebels helping fight to overthrow president bashar al assad is about to be declared a terrorist organization. u.s. government documents indicate this radical group known as the al nursa front has ties to al qaeda. this group has been behind some of the major military successes for the syrian rebels thus far. but also some more extreme tactics like suicide bombings. nick payton walsh joins me now live from beirut. nick, we know...
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. >>> now to the crisis in syria. secretary of state hillary clinton meeting today with a hundred special envoy. and russia's foreign minister. the focus of the talks is formulating a plan on how to move forward. clinton noted growing concerns that syrian president basha al assad may use chemical weapons on his own people. mohammed jamjoom joins us with that part of the story. >> reporter: state officials have said they believe syrians are loading chemical weapons, precursors for sarin, a deadly nerve gas on to aerial bomb that is could be dropped on the syrian people. monday cnn reported that u.s. officials believed that the syrians had begun mixing chemicals that could be used to weaponize sarin, but there were no signs that the syrian regime was going to do anything with those weapons. they maintain yet again today that they have no intention of using chemical weapons in syria. carol? >> mohammed jamjoom in beirut this morning. >>> sad ending for a month-long search of two missing cousins. the bodies of 8-year-old
. >>> now to the crisis in syria. secretary of state hillary clinton meeting today with a hundred special envoy. and russia's foreign minister. the focus of the talks is formulating a plan on how to move forward. clinton noted growing concerns that syrian president basha al assad may use chemical weapons on his own people. mohammed jamjoom joins us with that part of the story. >> reporter: state officials have said they believe syrians are loading chemical weapons, precursors for...
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the comments come as a fresh round of violence shakes syria. said to be taken after syrian government planes bombed a palestinian refugee camp near damascus on sunday. a uk-based human rights group says at least eight people were killed there. meanwhile, vice president farouk al sharia told the lebanese newspaper that neither the rebels nor the current government has the ability to reach an end point. an opposition group says at least 150 people were killed across syria on sunday. >>> south carolina governor nikki haley announced that congressman tim scott will replace outgoing senator jim demint. haley said she was looking for a conservative fighter. he thanked his mother for not quitting on him. >> when you start out in a single parent household with a mom who works 16 hours a day, and you're looking at a future that doesn't look as bright and you're living in charleston, south carolina, you build the strength that comes from having appreciation and understanding that it is not about you, that it is about your faith, about your family, and i
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we've had our own people in syria. it's one of those things. if you get stopped about a random group and kidnapped. all of my time in iraq, 13 time i was more worried about kidnap than roadside bombs and firefights with the military because they invariably did not end well. this was, in a way, they were lucky. if they had been kidnapped bay hard line jihadist group that may have ended badly for them, too. they were lucky in that they were kept alike, they hit the roadblock and during that firefight they weren't somehow hit. an extraordinary time of escape, and luck. >> tell us about the preparation. when you go into a war zone, you and i both have taken classes, five days of war school where they game out scenarios. you know you have a game plan before you go in. >> yeah. hostile environment training. that covers a bunch of things from battlefield, medical treatment to armaments and also kidnapping. and basically to give journalists a feel, a sense of what it would be like. you get a preparation. but nothing will prepare you for the real thing.
we've had our own people in syria. it's one of those things. if you get stopped about a random group and kidnapped. all of my time in iraq, 13 time i was more worried about kidnap than roadside bombs and firefights with the military because they invariably did not end well. this was, in a way, they were lucky. if they had been kidnapped bay hard line jihadist group that may have ended badly for them, too. they were lucky in that they were kept alike, they hit the roadblock and during that...
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that affected the syrian rebel group inside syria, a terrorist group. that's enormously important, because while it may not affect things particularly on the ground right nous, because the u.s. isn't about to start arming rebel groups, it does mean in the future this particular organization where you see these military successes are radical in ideology in many ways but are seen by many syrians as the most effective part of the rebel organization. they'll become a terrorist organization, meaning the u.s. can't really deal with them, can't really form or encourage them to form part of governmental structures or support they give syria in the future and it will severely conflict how they deal with this radical path. >> we have heard from the president and we have heard from the secretary of state, both of them previously expressing how complicated the situation is on the ground. that they are not necessarily sure that they know who all these people are, the rebels fighting against the syrian government. so what does this group r represent? how do they dist
that affected the syrian rebel group inside syria, a terrorist group. that's enormously important, because while it may not affect things particularly on the ground right nous, because the u.s. isn't about to start arming rebel groups, it does mean in the future this particular organization where you see these military successes are radical in ideology in many ways but are seen by many syrians as the most effective part of the rebel organization. they'll become a terrorist organization, meaning...
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three days of talks with governments on how to end bloodshed in syria. more than 40,000 have died, including children, as owe now. and wednesday, the pope is tweeting, go on twitter to catch his first tweet from his personal account. the hope has managed to get nearly 600,000 followers in the last week. and on friday, person of the year, "time" is naming them. last year it was the protester that was picked. "time" is a sister company of cnn, and on saturday, egyptians vote. catch it live here on cnn. there you have it, a busy week ahead. it seems like whatever she does cases a stir, and now a tweet is causing a social media frenzy. take a look at your gas prices. the price fell a penny. tonight our guest, thomas sargent. nobel laureate in economics, and one of the most cited economists in the world. professor sargent, can you tell me what cd rates will be in two years? no. if he can't, no one can. that's why ally has a raise your rate cd. ally bank. your money needs an ally. [ tylenol bottle ] me too! and nasal co [ tissue box ] he said nasal congestion.
three days of talks with governments on how to end bloodshed in syria. more than 40,000 have died, including children, as owe now. and wednesday, the pope is tweeting, go on twitter to catch his first tweet from his personal account. the hope has managed to get nearly 600,000 followers in the last week. and on friday, person of the year, "time" is naming them. last year it was the protester that was picked. "time" is a sister company of cnn, and on saturday, egyptians vote....
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we've got the looming fiscal cliff, unrest overseas in egypt and syria. lots to talk about with politics to the macks. get it? that's my new title. wrapping up their time in office is husband and wife team connie mack of california and representative mary mack of florida. senator bob corker on sunday seemed to be setting a conciliatory tone between republicans, saying, yes, maybe in fact these tax hikes for the wealthy will go through. let's play a little bit of what he said first. >> there is a growing group of folks that are looking at this and realizing we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue before year end. a lot of people are putting forth a theory -- and i actually think it has merit -- where you go ahead and give the president the 2% increase that he's talking about. it's actually much lesser tax increase than what he's been talking about. the focus then shifts to entitlements, and maybe that puts us in a place where we actually can do something that really saves this nation. >> so it sounds like maybe the tax cuts that we've b
we've got the looming fiscal cliff, unrest overseas in egypt and syria. lots to talk about with politics to the macks. get it? that's my new title. wrapping up their time in office is husband and wife team connie mack of california and representative mary mack of florida. senator bob corker on sunday seemed to be setting a conciliatory tone between republicans, saying, yes, maybe in fact these tax hikes for the wealthy will go through. let's play a little bit of what he said first. >>...
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we're told some of the contractors are on the ground in syria monitoring suspected chemical weapons sites. >> the north koreans are holding off launching a long range rocket, so far. earlier this not north korean government announced a 13-day window for possible launch. that window opens today. they're claiming it's a peaceful bid to advance the space program. the u.s. sees it as something more sinister and is threatening sanctions if this launch takes place. >> hugo chavez is heading back to cube yach to cuba. the venezuelan president naming his vice president as his choice to take over that country if surgery doesn't go so well. the 58-year-old chavez is scheduled to be sworn in for a new six-year term next month. >>> internet anti-virus pioneer john mcafee says he wants to go back to the united states, not back to belize. authorities in belize say they want to question him about the murder of his neighbor. speaking from an immigration detention senter in guatemala city, mcafee took to the web to explain why he is fighting extradition to belize. >> it is believed that belize is not a co
we're told some of the contractors are on the ground in syria monitoring suspected chemical weapons sites. >> the north koreans are holding off launching a long range rocket, so far. earlier this not north korean government announced a 13-day window for possible launch. that window opens today. they're claiming it's a peaceful bid to advance the space program. the u.s. sees it as something more sinister and is threatening sanctions if this launch takes place. >> hugo chavez is...
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zaidoun's mother, sisters, two daughters, and his wife are all in syria right now. we hope they're safe tonight and we'll keep in touch as best we can. >> we're following other important stories, isha sesay joins us with a 360 bulletin. >> the 23-year-old rape victim indians call damini has died in a hospital. a the attack, a vishicious rape. six people have been arrested. >> nelson mandela's granddaughter has asked the public to stop spreading rumors that he's close to death. she says the former south african president is doing well and is aware of what is being said about him. he had gallstone surgery earlier this month and is back home now. >> george h.w. bush's spokesman said he continues to improve and doctors are cautiously optimistic that his current course of treatment will be effective. he has been at methodist hospital for more than a month. he's been in intensive care since sunday. >>> it's now confirmed that 15 tornadoes hit alabama alone on christmas, including the one shown here. it ripped through walgreens in mobile, a terrifying scene, as many as 30
zaidoun's mother, sisters, two daughters, and his wife are all in syria right now. we hope they're safe tonight and we'll keep in touch as best we can. >> we're following other important stories, isha sesay joins us with a 360 bulletin. >> the 23-year-old rape victim indians call damini has died in a hospital. a the attack, a vishicious rape. six people have been arrested. >> nelson mandela's granddaughter has asked the public to stop spreading rumors that he's close to death....
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arwa damon has been inside syria for more than about a week now. she's been talking to rebels who say they're angry at the international community for its inaction and won't tolerate meddling now. do you think there's anything at this point the u.s., its allies can do to try to repair that relationship? >> i think we could establish a safe zone from which they could organize and operate. the other problem, as you know, is the dramatic infiltration over the last year or so of these jihadists, al qaeda jihadist extremists from all over the arab world. you name a country and they've come in from there. and unfortunately, some of the countries that are providing the weapons, those have gone directly to these extremists. rather than to the moderate forces. and without a place to organize, to set up a government to do the things that are necessary to take over, they don't have that yet. finally again, every day that goes by, the problem becomes more difficult, whether it be the weapons they were talking about, the chemical weapons and the nerve gas or wh
arwa damon has been inside syria for more than about a week now. she's been talking to rebels who say they're angry at the international community for its inaction and won't tolerate meddling now. do you think there's anything at this point the u.s., its allies can do to try to repair that relationship? >> i think we could establish a safe zone from which they could organize and operate. the other problem, as you know, is the dramatic infiltration over the last year or so of these...
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almost 40,000 people have died in syria already. but the use of chemical weapons and poison gas, i think the fa val valueties would be very much greater. it does kind of cross a line. these aren't judgments that you can make in any particularly scientific way. but i think what your administration, part of the international community is signaling to the president is if you cross that line, it will be a sharp and strong reaction. >> and those were tough words coming from president obama yesterday from secretary hillary clinton from the nato secretary general today in brussels. is that enough to prevent using poison gas or chemical warfare? or just threats, shall we say? is there something else tangibly the international community should be doing? >> well, it's important that i'm sure this is being conveyed in many different ways, too. it's important that he understands that that response is going to be emphatic. so it won't be, in other words, that we issue a strong statement. that ll be some action that will follow. look, i think he
almost 40,000 people have died in syria already. but the use of chemical weapons and poison gas, i think the fa val valueties would be very much greater. it does kind of cross a line. these aren't judgments that you can make in any particularly scientific way. but i think what your administration, part of the international community is signaling to the president is if you cross that line, it will be a sharp and strong reaction. >> and those were tough words coming from president obama...
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-arab league envoy for syria is it in cairo. does he have a proposal to end the conflict at this foipoint? >> reporter: he's had a proposal for a while new actually. i went to several places. he went to syria to meet with assad and went to russia to meet with the russian foreign minister. they urged them to have a political solution. today the joint u.n.-arab league enon invoice is in cairo to report on his trips these past several days to tell him about the progress. he had a press conference a little while ago where he talked about how dire the situation is in syria. take a listen to some of what he had to say. >> translator: the situation in syria is really bad, and it is only rapidly deteriorating. therefore, if nearly 50,000 people have been killed in about two years, do not expect just 25,000 people to die next year. maybe 100,000 will die. the situation is deteriorating rapidly. >> reporter: that's shocking to hear from the peace envoy saying that possibly by next year if this continues you could see as many as 100,000 pe
-arab league envoy for syria is it in cairo. does he have a proposal to end the conflict at this foipoint? >> reporter: he's had a proposal for a while new actually. i went to several places. he went to syria to meet with assad and went to russia to meet with the russian foreign minister. they urged them to have a political solution. today the joint u.n.-arab league enon invoice is in cairo to report on his trips these past several days to tell him about the progress. he had a press...
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>> yeah, i mean, it's -- >> syria is the center of the middle east. if this thing becomes a failed state with gases like sarin, if al qaeda like groups take it over. it will be a source of instability for the next couple decades, something has to be done now. it's late. but this is -- you can't play around with this any more. >> bob baer and peter brooks, thank you. nice to have you with us this evening. >>> just 29 days and counting from the fiscal cliff, the speaker of the house john boehner offers up his own plan today. and the white house has already offered up their response. >>> a little later, a photo in the trayvon martin case has been released in color. we'll show it to you. a new heir to the british thrown is on its way. it's a baby bonanza. one is for a clean, wedomestic energy future that puts us in control. our abundant natural gas is already saving us money, producing cleaner electricity, putting us to work here in america and supporting wind and solar. though all energy development comes with some risk, we're committed to safely and res
>> yeah, i mean, it's -- >> syria is the center of the middle east. if this thing becomes a failed state with gases like sarin, if al qaeda like groups take it over. it will be a source of instability for the next couple decades, something has to be done now. it's late. but this is -- you can't play around with this any more. >> bob baer and peter brooks, thank you. nice to have you with us this evening. >>> just 29 days and counting from the fiscal cliff, the speaker...
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turkey, of course, borders syria and thousands of rebels and refugees from syria have fled to turkey for safety. >>> president obama and house speaker john boehner meeting for nearly an hour yesterday evening in a fiscal cliff showdown. with 18 days remaining before we go over the edge, both sides are saying that "lines of communication remain open." most of us have been stressing over the thousands of extra dollars you may have to fork over to uncle sam next year. along with sequestration come sweeping spending cuts, too. here's cnn pentagon correspondent chris lawrence. >> reporter: to hear the pentagon tell it -- >> sequestration, therefore, if it were allowed to happen, would introduce senseless chaos. >> reporter: the fiscal cliff -- >> sequestration will have a chaotic infect on the force. is akin to armageddon. >> what i worry about is being blindsided by a huge cut because they don't have the strength or the courage or the guts to do what they have to do. >> happy holidays. >> reporter: the cliff would cut $500 billion in defense spending but spread out over the next ten year
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it's a small village in western syria. witnesses say a government warplane dropped bombs on a bakery today where long lines of people were waiting just to get some bread. more than 100 people are dead now. i want to talk to cnn's mohammed j j jamjoon. >> reporter: it's horrific details that have emerged the past few hours since we first reported this bombing. activists tell us that around 3:00 to 4:00 p.m. local in syria today that this warplane dropped this shell on this bakery. they say that hundreds of people were lined up outside, that there had been shortages of food throughout the last week. this was the first day that that bakery that had been hit was open and that because of that, at least 100 people they say were killed. the video that we've seen posted online, we can't independently verify it, but it seems to be corroborated by what we've been told by activists. it shows an absolutely grisly scene, mangled bodies in the wreckage of the building and the rubble. you see rebel free syrian army soldiers and civilians
it's a small village in western syria. witnesses say a government warplane dropped bombs on a bakery today where long lines of people were waiting just to get some bread. more than 100 people are dead now. i want to talk to cnn's mohammed j j jamjoon. >> reporter: it's horrific details that have emerged the past few hours since we first reported this bombing. activists tell us that around 3:00 to 4:00 p.m. local in syria today that this warplane dropped this shell on this bakery. they say...
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military is updating its options daily for a potential strike against syria. this in response to intelligence that shows the assad regime has filled bombs with deadly chemical weapons. syria has one of the most sophisticated stockpiles of chemical weapons in the region, including mustard gas, sarin and intelligence agents think vx nerve agent. president obama has said the movement or use of chemical weapons by syria could lead to u.s. intervention. "outfront" tonight, national security contributor fran townsend who is on the cia and homeland security external advisory board and noah shachtman. noah, what do we think is going on right now? at what point are they in this process? >> so the assad regime has hundreds of metric tons of the building blocks of sarin. basically two big building blocks. there's isopropanol which is rubbing alcohol and phosphorous compounds. those are kept separately in order to keep things safe. but the assad regime in small, limited quantities appears to have combined those two chemicals to make deadly sarin nerve agent and has loaded
military is updating its options daily for a potential strike against syria. this in response to intelligence that shows the assad regime has filled bombs with deadly chemical weapons. syria has one of the most sophisticated stockpiles of chemical weapons in the region, including mustard gas, sarin and intelligence agents think vx nerve agent. president obama has said the movement or use of chemical weapons by syria could lead to u.s. intervention. "outfront" tonight, national...
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>> yeah, look, syria is at the center of the middle east. if this thing is becomes a failed state with gases like saran, if al-qaeda like groups take it over, it will be a source of instability for the next serl decades. something has to be done now. you can't play around with this anymore. >> thank you, gentlemen. nice to have you with us this evening. >>> next, 29 days and counting for the fiscal cliff. john boehner offers up his own plan today. and the white house has already offered up their response. then later, a photo in the trayvon martin case has been released in color. we'll show it to you and a new heir to the british throne is on its way. it's a baby bonanza. that's ahead. employees are being forced to do more with less. and the need for capable leaders is greater than ever. when you see these problems do you take a step back, or do you want to dive right in? with a degree in business from capella university, you'll have the knowledge to go further in your career than you ever thought possible. let's get started at capella.edu pl
>> yeah, look, syria is at the center of the middle east. if this thing is becomes a failed state with gases like saran, if al-qaeda like groups take it over, it will be a source of instability for the next serl decades. something has to be done now. you can't play around with this anymore. >> thank you, gentlemen. nice to have you with us this evening. >>> next, 29 days and counting for the fiscal cliff. john boehner offers up his own plan today. and the white house has...
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. >>> the government is working closely with rebel groups in syria. now one is going to be labeled a terrorist group with ties to al qaeda. >> plus, the u.s. postal service loses $25 million every single day. could this holiday season be the last for the usps? >>> and jenni rivera confirms as one of those kills in a plane crash. we'll look at her final moments in legacy, "outfront." [ female announcer ] what if the next big thing, isn't a thing at all? it's...
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we have very few people in syria. the idea that we could estimate 9% of the rebels are any one group is ludicrous. i think we will be surprised in syria as we were surprised in iraq, surprised in afghanistan. what is significant is we have figured out there is a group that is fighting very well. these guys are real good fighters. that it's very dangerous and this will complicate the effort to help the syrian rebels enormously. >> how big of an influence then is al qaeda in the rebels? we don't know exactly how many, but when you thing about it and hear about it, how significant is al qaeda? >> i think it's very important to understand, again, we don't know whether this is al qaeda inspired, al qaeda connected or al qaeda directed. those are three different phenomenon. my guess is it's al qaeda inspired. this is a local jihadi group. perhaps there's qatari money, but these guys are really fanatical islamists but they're not getting their military orders from zawahiri. it makes it very difficult for the united states to
we have very few people in syria. the idea that we could estimate 9% of the rebels are any one group is ludicrous. i think we will be surprised in syria as we were surprised in iraq, surprised in afghanistan. what is significant is we have figured out there is a group that is fighting very well. these guys are real good fighters. that it's very dangerous and this will complicate the effort to help the syrian rebels enormously. >> how big of an influence then is al qaeda in the rebels? we...